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Post by Jayda on Jan 27, 2010 16:06:29 GMT -5
Okay, I just decided to go ahead and post something to get it all started So, what are your political views? I imagine, as Mormons, most/all of you are on the conservative side. I, myself, am mostly libertarian. What about you?
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Post by shadow on Feb 2, 2010 16:35:55 GMT -5
Why are you a liberal? And I guess you could call ma a conservative but I hate political parties and labels like conservative and liberal
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Post by Jayda on Feb 2, 2010 17:08:31 GMT -5
I'm NOT liberal. I'm Libertarian. There's a difference Liberal = more government, more taxing, more laws, etc. Libertarian = minimal government, more freedoms, less taxing, etc.
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Post by shadow on Feb 3, 2010 15:32:17 GMT -5
lol sorry wouldnt that be close to conservative?
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Post by Jayda on Feb 3, 2010 18:01:57 GMT -5
Ehhh. It depends on what kind of conservative, honestly. Republicans are in the same bracket as conservatives (people sometimes call republicans conservatives instead) and I'm not a republican. I'd rather even be Independant than anywhere near republican or democrat because they're both such corrupt parties.
Conservatives don't necesarily believe in more freedom, anyway. I mean, they want to make some binding laws, they're in it for power, etc. It does totally depend on the views that you have, and on your outlook and such, but a lot of the people just in office in general are greedy and such.
Libertarians are more extreme. We're closer to anarchy than other groups, though we don't want anarchy because that would just create chaos.
Okay, sorry for going on and on xD Hahaha.
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Post by hockeydude on Feb 4, 2010 0:10:09 GMT -5
At this point I'd say I'm a Libertarian myself. But I never really like to associate myself with one group. I like to make my exclusive decision on my each issue, whatever category that falls under. Sometimes I'll be more liberal (I'm with Shadow I thought liberal meant more freedoms?) and sometimes I'll be more conservative. It's a case by case thing for me so I tend to stick to my own judgements over that of a designated group's. Plus aside from now, how much I pay attention to politics is pretty pathetic. So it'd be a mistake for me to merge into any group.
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Post by Jayda on Feb 4, 2010 10:55:11 GMT -5
Yeah, I know what you mean. I want to be entirely libertarian because that's what I feel is right - more freedoms and less government, which is what the Founders wanted - but with certain issues like gay marriage I find it hard to say yes, considering it's against my religion, you know? No, liberal doesn't mean more freedoms. Liberal may SEEM like more freedoms, but underneath it all they'll have just as much stronghold on us as conservatives, especially when we get to the socialist side of the left and then eventually marxist and communist. That's where the liberals lean - towards those categories, which is why they don't mean more freedom. Of course, if you include gay marriage, abortion, etc then yeah, those are freedoms. But otherwise, they just kind of bind you. You honestly sound more like an Independant or Moderate. My parents are Independants right now, I'm pretty sure. I'm kind of halfway to Independant, but libertarian suits me best, I think Haha. Yeah, I get what you're sayng xD I didn't start studying and paying attention until I was fourteen. I had all of these people around me talking about it and I didn't understand, and I love a good debate, so I wanted to become informed!
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Post by shadow on Feb 5, 2010 18:57:59 GMT -5
ok as of now I refuse to take any political name, this is just too confusing
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Post by Jayda on Feb 5, 2010 19:01:02 GMT -5
It really isn't confusing once you study it for a little bit It was confusing to me before, though.
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Post by Andrew the Penguin on Feb 10, 2010 19:58:17 GMT -5
I'm Libertarian too. ^_^ Someday, i'll also be Librarian as well. He he he he he he.... That was a pun. ^_^ Yeah. R&D are really corrupt. Yes, R&D. Republican and Democracy. >_> Frankly, I think those dorks up as Washington should be quiet, and let the SMART, RESPONSIBLE people in. ^_^ Yeah, there are those who are still pretty cool, But a bunch of them are dorks. Look at the Clintons!!
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Post by Jayda on Feb 10, 2010 20:26:53 GMT -5
Agreed. The people are supposed to be in control, NOT the federal government. In fact, that Founders wanted strong LOCAL governments to control the country (they know what their area specifically needs, where as federal is bunching everyone together) because one government, the federal government will just keep taking power until we have none left.
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Post by shadow on Feb 11, 2010 18:18:10 GMT -5
I dont care I think theyre all corrupt anyways
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Post by Andrew the Penguin on Feb 11, 2010 18:37:04 GMT -5
Jayda and Shadow, both very well put. No more can be said about this topic that has not been in those two posts.
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Post by Jayda on Feb 11, 2010 19:06:08 GMT -5
Haha. Thanks.
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Post by Andrew the Penguin on Feb 11, 2010 19:49:58 GMT -5
Yer welcome!
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Post by shadow on Apr 3, 2010 20:31:21 GMT -5
well this topic is dead lol
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Post by sulfuric on Apr 16, 2010 16:09:41 GMT -5
i'm ++ with the ecology
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Post by ldsgirl Aka Sayari on Apr 26, 2010 12:58:15 GMT -5
Raising honey bees will help with the natural pollination of flowers, trees and crops!
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Post by shadow on Apr 29, 2010 20:20:14 GMT -5
lol jen has replaced her addiction of the internet with honey bees
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Post by ldsgirl Aka Sayari on Apr 30, 2010 0:58:10 GMT -5
lol jen has replaced her addiction of the Internet with honey bees Lol, hey JT! ;D Honey bees are fascinating! I'm learning so many interesting things about them that I may write my own book sometime! I haven't had that much time to post in the forums, but I've answered nearly 2,200 Pm's on here since January!
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Post by Equinox3100 on Apr 30, 2010 10:26:08 GMT -5
lol jen has replaced her addiction of the Internet with honey bees Lol, hey JT! ;D Honey bees are fascinating! I'm learning so many interesting things about them that I may write my own book sometime! I haven't had that much time to post in the forums, but I've answered nearly 2,200 Pm's on here since January! I can't stand bees of any kind, fascinating or not! I don't like things that swarm or fly (except for birds, but we're talking bugs here) XP I don't even like being around butterflies (they're pretty in books)
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Post by ldsgirl Aka Sayari on Apr 30, 2010 23:39:21 GMT -5
Lol, hey JT! ;D Honey bees are fascinating! I'm learning so many interesting things about them that I may write my own book sometime! I haven't had that much time to post in the forums, but I've answered nearly 2,200 Pm's on here since January! I can't stand bees of any kind, fascinating or not! I don't like things that swarm or fly (except for birds, but we're talking bugs here) XP I don't even like being around butterflies (they're pretty in books) Wow! I'll have to try and convert you to be a fan of the honey bee! ;D
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Post by sulfuric on May 1, 2010 5:02:43 GMT -5
I do not like honey-bees, i like them in books or so far..
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Post by shadow on May 1, 2010 7:45:49 GMT -5
Honey bees are fun and Ive never had any problem with them
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Post by Equinox3100 on May 1, 2010 9:01:32 GMT -5
I can't stand bees of any kind, fascinating or not! I don't like things that swarm or fly (except for birds, but we're talking bugs here) XP I don't even like being around butterflies (they're pretty in books) Wow! I'll have to try and convert you to be a fan of the honey bee! ;D won't happen, but good luck with that! :]
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Post by Equinox3100 on May 1, 2010 9:02:38 GMT -5
Honey bees are fun and Ive never had any problem with them YOU don't, I freak out when ANY type of thing that stings and flys is around me! and you would find that "fun".. :]
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Post by shadow on May 6, 2010 7:41:45 GMT -5
I would find that "funNY"
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Post by Equinox3100 on May 6, 2010 14:07:13 GMT -5
no I meant you would find that fun to play with bees.. and yeah you would think it was funny.. just imagine it XD I laugh at the image myself
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Child Of God
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Post by xkyairax on May 11, 2010 20:50:49 GMT -5
I to consider myself moderate. I'm pro choice, pro gay marriage, animal rights activist an I'm and environmentalist. I'm a more liberal than most(if not all) of you guys here.
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Post by ldsgirl Aka Sayari on May 11, 2010 21:05:38 GMT -5
I to consider myself moderate. I'm pro choice, pro gay marriage, animal rights activist an I'm and environmentalist. I'm a more liberal than most(if not all) of you guys here. Yes, you're definitely more liberal than me. Are you LDS?
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